Yerevan vs Cairo – Fighting!

No doubt, I’m just destined to appear at the most fussy places. A correction – it was not fussy, it was a huge fight!!!

A friend plays in Yerevan basketball team for the currently going 4th Pan-Armenian Games. Being a basketball fan I went to see their game with Cairo and cheer for him. This would be their second game after yesterday’s game with Kiev. Today I also saw the Kiev vs Geneva match, and I must admit that school basketball league I used to play in was far far better from that of Kiev.

Anyways, everything seemed to be calm when they started. However, on the tenth minute, at score 18:18 I hardly managed to look to the left when the playground was already crowded with people beating each other, throwing chairs, cursing and hitting with every possible stuff. It took an instant, really. Such a huge mess!

What caused this? A Yerevan player noticed that Cairo was playing roughly. A Cairo player pushed the Yerevan player, another player saw this and pushed the one who pushed his friend. That’s it. And it took an instant for everyone to jump to the playing area and start beating each other. Someone hit the Yerevan coach, the latter bumped another one. A Cairo player got a serious bump on his head, and it was blooding. Well, you must already guess the continuation…

The police interfered, though they were not able to disperse the mess. They were still shouting and cursing. The organizers tried to find some solution to stop this. Someone suggested to apologize to each other and go on. A woman next to me from Cairo started shouting at the coach and organizers: “Shame, shame on you, we are guests, how can you?” Actually I didn’t get it, if they are guests so they are privileged to play roughly?? And they did play roughly, managing to gain several falls by the 10th minute.

The Cairo team packed their things and left the building, saying that they wouldn’t step in anymore. The guy’s head was bandaged and he was taken by the ambulance.

For some reason I did not wander and didn’t shake my head. I witnessed such cases during previous games as well, and every time the diasporan participants would leave with disappointment. Guess they have some higher expectation, which are never met.

A good start on the second day. Probably there were more beatings somewhere else, who knows. I want to be short, so here also some unsuccessful and blurred pictures, which I hardly managed to get, just for you to get the whole scene.

Yerevan vs Cahier

Yerevan vs Cahier

Yerevan vs Cahier

36 Responses to “Yerevan vs Cairo – Fighting!”

  1. Onnik Krikorian Says:

    There was a fight at the Glendale-Istanbul basketball game as well which police had to intervene in.

  2. Oneworld Multimedia :: Fights Mar Pan-Armenian Games Day 2 :: August :: 2007 Says:

    […] of violence on the basketball court. In the following match, Zarchka at Life Around Me reports that another fight broke out between ethnic Armenians from Cairo and a local team from […]

  3. Zarchka Says:

    Then that’s it. Expect some more to take place. I wonder whether the same is with girls or that’s only hot headed guys?

  4. Zarchka Says:

    Oh, and a shame for me, I just corrected Cairo which I misspelled into something else😉

  5. Zarchka Says:

    Just got a fresh news. Yerevan basketball team was disqualified to take further participation in the 4th Pan-Armenian games. A friend said they were taken to the police where they stood up late. Whereas Cairo team will continue its participation.

    Now it’s time for some raised eyebrows. I didn’t expect this.

  6. Onnik Krikorian Says:

    Well, I have to be honest and wonder why two fights happened in succession between Armenians from Armenia and the United States with two teams from Moslem countries. Maybe there’s no link at all, but let’s be honest. This prejudice does exist.

  7. Zarchka Says:

    That prejudice might be the case with two dasporan teams, but I don’t really think that the Yerevan team had anything against their being from a Moslem country. Guess what, most of those guys do not even have any understanding whether Egypt is a Moslem country or not. As everything seemed very calm from the very beginning, I figure that’s only the Armenian “how dare you hit my bro” style – hot headed and intolerant. And there the mess goes.

    I saw such fights during previous Pan-Armenian Games as well and the phenomenon itself is so shameful, But this one probably was the hugest fight, on the least that I don’t remember some teams being disqualified during past games. But this must be very serious that they decided to disqualify Yerevan team, because everyone expected that Yerevan teams will receive all the support, motivated by its victory during the previous Pan-Armenian Games.

    However, the tolerance must go both ways.

  8. Onnik Krikorian Says:

    The fact that Yerevan was disqualified kind of indicates that they were considered to be most at fault and responsible for the incident, no?

    Anyway, I don’t know. From being here these past years there is known prejudice from local Armenians towards Armenians from Iran, Syria, Iraq etc because they are considered to be “different.”

    Not from everybody, but it’s a common complaint I’ve heard. On the other hand, Armenians like to separate themselves from each other and generally never mix. American-Armenians stay in their circle although will extend into other “western” groups such as European Armenian, Canadian Armenian etc, and Middle Eastern Armenians stay in theirs.

    I don’t know what started this fight, but it is interesting to note that the Yerevan and not the Cairo team were disqualified. Coming immediately after another fight between Glendale and Istanbul, there’s certainly grounds to wonder what’s going on, but anyway. Maybe it’s all just the excitement of the competition.

    However, lashing out with fists and chairs is not the way to go, and if the Cairo team had been playing too aggressively, the referee should determine whether that was the case and make decisions in favor of the Yerevan team. Personally, I’d like to know if any insults were traded between the teams, but it’s not possible to know if that was the case without a) being there and b) being on court rather than in the audience.

    One thing I do know, however, is that Armenians are very insular and prejudiced not only against other nations, but also towards those Armenians coming from somewhere different. I heard it yesterday in Ararat, for example, when one local was really hitting out at the German Armenian term because he heard them communicate with each other in German.

    It’s interesting whether the Cairo team were communicating with each other in Arabic or in Armenian. Did you hear? Turkish Armenians most definitely communicate with each other in Turkish and the Glendale, Fresno, Montreal teams in English. This is natural, of course, but many Armenians here just don’t quite get it.

  9. Zarchka Says:

    Actually I was sitting right above the Yerevan team and heard how a minute before the fight a Yerevan player approached their coach complaining that the Cairo was playing harshly for which they already gained several falls. Personally I, being so close to the Yerevan team, heard no insults, moreover, they friendly shook each others’ hands and exchanged some flags before the match. Before the match I was talking to my friend who was playing and he, as well as his teammates were calm, also they assured that it was going to be a nice match, knowing that Cairo had a good team.

    Later already in the yard yes I did hear how the Cairo players were laughingly talking in Arabic and supposedly telling how everything started and who hit who, which one could guess from their gestures. Whereas before that a woman lashed out at Yerevan guys repeating; “Surely, you are laughing, laughing, aren’t you ashamed?”, to which their coach answered that it was the Cairo team who started this. The only thing I heard Armenian was “his mother should not know about this”, I guessed that was about the injured guy from Cairo.

    Anyways, it goes long. I’m taking nobody’s side. However, I might try to talk to the Yerevan team and learn their viewpoint and why it was they who were disqualified, meanwhile you could talk to the Cairo guys and find what they think about all this fuss. Apparently everyone will try to hold their truth, but whatever.

  10. Global Voices Online » Armenia: Sport fights Says:

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  11. Onnik Krikorian Says:

    I’m interested in why the referee did not warn the Cairo team if they were playing too “harshly.” Also, why it was the Yerevan team that were disqualified and not the Cairo team. This presupposes that the fight was started by the Yerevan team although I admit that I was not there. However, any complaints about a breach of basketball rules should have been addressed to the referee who I suppose would have warned anyone at fault in the first place.

  12. Zarchka Says:

    Ok, now when I’m back from another match, incidentally Cairo-Kiev, and having talked to some Yerevan guys, here is what they say. The Yerevan player pushed with the ball the Cairo player because the latter cursed him after how the guy took the ball and blocked with his back. And the moment when another Cairo player wanted to attack, another Yerevan player rushed to put him down. That’s it.

    That is – the Yerevan team started it first, that’s why it is them who were disqualified. Also the fact, that at least 3 of the Cairo players, who I saw today already among the audience, were injured. 4 stitches were put in on the forehead of one of them.

    The Yerevan team was double disappointed today, because Glendale beat Gyumri with the score 62:61.

  13. Onnik Krikorian Says:

    You know, I still don’t get it and I would have thought the players responsible should have been disqualified and not the team. However, I suppose this is Yerevan’s side of the story and we haven’t heard Cairo’s not that I have any reason to take their word more than Yerevan’s.

    Whichever way it goes, the incident was regrettable and it sounds quite serious compared to even the Glendale-Istanbul clash which was shocking enough, to be honest.

  14. H Says:

    Maybe only the Yerevan team was disqualified because Cairo team is a guest? I think that whould have played its role in the decision making.
    In general I think locals treat Spyurkahays and visitors better than each other.

  15. Zarchka Says:

    Right, that might be the case pretty well, given that they probably wanted to escape any further problems. Not fair though.

  16. Oneworld Multimedia :: The Reality of Diaspora-Armenia Relations :: August :: 2007 Says:

    […] the Armenian Sport blog posted an entry on the Egyptian team in July, and Zarchka at Life Around Me posted photos and an account of what happened during the Yerevan-Cairo match. Some may deny it, but the inescapable fact is that the consensus of […]

  17. Yékibdahay Says:

    First and foremost, I would like to state that I am a Spürkahay from Egypt. The Cairo team’s players were thus more than just some distant, unknown figures. They are a group of people some members of which have seen me grow up, others I have grown up with, and still others I have seen grow up. They are more than just friends. I consider them no less than family.

    The news came as a complete and utter shock to me. The fact that a fight had occurred, however, was not what shocked me. Such regrettable turns of events happen occasionally during sports events. What did shock me, however, was the fact that this was way more than an exchange of angry words seasoned with vulgarities. This was also much more than a fist fight.

    My own friends being part of the Cairo team, I have, of course, received their own views of the story; which, understandably so, may not be so objective. However, I was told that the second one pushed the other, at least some members of the Yérévan team rushed in with chairs and… what seemed to be canes. The English language, here, falls short of being able to offer an accurate translation of the word. I heard that they used staff-like objects during the fight. For the purposes of what I am writing, however, I am going to simply call them “sticks”.

    What kind of behaviour is this, that a team uses actual objects as weapons in a fight between two teams? If you do not believe me, please take a look at the first picture posted with this blog. You will see an orange shirt-wearing team member about to throw a chair. I believe that none may contest the fact that it was the Yérévan team that was wearing orange. In response, one could say here that the Cairo team also used chairs and such during the fight. That may not be impossible; however, it is relevant that Zarchka has mentioned no such thing in the blog in which he was criticizing the Cairo team. As for the use of “sticks”, it was conveniently omitted by Zarchka.

    I believe it was not only the fact that it was the Yérévan team that started the fight that got them disqualified, but that it was also the use of such violence. The injuries of the Cairo players testify to that: One with four stitches on the forehead, another with three skull fractures near the nose and eyes (you can see this player holding his nose in the second picture on this blog), and yet another with some damage to his backbone, the nature of which I am not certain yet.

    As for Onnik Krikorian’s statement concerning something about Muslim countries, I found its meaning very vague. I found there to be at least two possible interpretations of it: the first being that the members of Yérévan’s and Glendale’s teams are racist, or at least suspicious, against team members from Muslim countries. The second plausible interpretation is that it is the teams from the Muslim countries’ fault that these fights broke out, somehow due to the prevalent religion in the teams’ respective countries. I would like it if Mr. Krikorian clarified his point.

    After the fight, four players from the Yérévan team were sent to the police station, where they would have been sentenced to two years in prison, had the administrators of the Cairo team not stepped in and stopped that from happening. This would not have been possible if the injured players from the Cairo team had not accepted to sign an official reconciliation document at the police station. The disqualification of their team was deemed enough. It is worthy of note that even the parents of all the injured players of the Cairo team agreed to drop these charges, instead of suing them, as some citizens of more “Western” countries would have done. So, if indeed Mr. Krikorian, or anybody else for that matter, were accusing the Cairo team of being too violent, intolerant, or anything else due to the religion most prevalent in Egypt, this goes to show that this is not at all the case.

    And last but not least, the allegations made against the Cairo team, and thus the Armenian community in Egypt in general, of speaking more Arabic than Armenian, they are superfluous. I will not deny that the younger generations, a member of which I, myself, am, do use a few Arabic words in the spoken language, especially when speaking amongst themselves. The overall spoken language, however, is, undeniably, Armenian. I would like to know what made Zarchka make his claims of the contrary. Does he, himself, understand Armenian very well? Is he even Armenian at all? Did he even hear the Cairo team speak amongst themselves, or did someone else tell him that he/she heard that? If so, was that person an Armenian from Armenia? In this latter case, it is worthy of mention that they speak a different dialect of our own, and as such, may have interpreted a few Armenian words that the Cairo team members were using as “non-Armenian”, even though it is a perfectly normal word to be used by Spürkahays. One’s ability to distinguish familiar words from non-familiar ones drops dramatically when listening to another dialect, especially when there are a few foreign (in this case, Arabic) words thrown in.

    If ever a study was made to show the percentage of fluent Armenian speakers within all the Diaspora communities, the Egyptian one would rank among the top three.

  18. HV Says:

    I wonder why 4 of the Cairo guys eneded up in the hospital with an open forehead, a fractured face, 3 fractured ribs and another set of black eyes and we never heard of ONe injury to Yerevan team, and why Cairo players had to return the next day for another set of X-rays cause relatives of the Yerevan players had smashed into the hospital ripping reports and X-rays so the police couldn’t use in the case building, i wonder why 4 of Yerevan players ended up at the Police Station till very late at night, i wonder why the Cairo players HAD to go to the Police station late at night to ask dismissal of charges against Yerevani players.

    Is it true the President of the Republic had a say in this, is it true that the President of the Armenian Patriarchate in Cairo is flying today to Yerevan to continue the talks with the authorities, you should have seen the final game in 2005 against Glendale where both Christian country teams played against each other in that all friendly spirit but all the wounded were from Glendale, Yerevan team being Pro has other reasons to win then inter Armenia Diaspora exchange,

    How dare you talk about prejudice because this or that team comes from a Muslim country, don’t you know we are ALL Armenians here, is that how you class us, where did your ancestors come from, do you know your family history, or are you blending in the West, we are Armenians wherever we are, i’m sorry that there are people who think the way you do, if you feel like that why don’t you call yourself ODAR so you wouldn’t have to associate yourselves with us kind.

    sorry i typed so much. thanks

  19. Sossy Neredian/Hagopian Says:

    I was having a look at the latest news about the 4th Pan-Armenian Games when I was shocked at reading the comments about the Cairo/Yerevan incident. How can a person , who has admitted even not witnessing the game, pass judgments about the Cairo team? If the Cairo team was playing roughly it was the referees’ job to take an action . How can a normal incident of two players pushing each other towards the end of the first quarter of the game transform the stadium into a battle field?
    I think having three players of Cairo team badly injured tells something !
    Do you think that the 4 Yerevan players who were arrested were innocent?
    Three players of the Cairo team were taken to the hospital to be treated for a deep cut over the eyebrow that needed 5 stitches, a fractured nose and cheekbone and a sever blow to the spinal cord. To show the nobility of the spirit of the Cairo team , which is in fact the reflection of the spirit of Egypt as a whole , the injured athletes went to the police station and dropped all charges ( any other Western Armenian team would have SUED not only the Yerevan team but the Pan-Armenian committee as well ).
    What is really sad about most Armenians living in Western countries is their way of thinking about the Middle East and the Moslem religion.
    What kind of brainwash was done to them by their media that has blinded them towards truth and made them unable to differentiate between fact and propaganda. In one of the comments a person was trying to find a relation between fighting and coming from a Moslem country. You have really been programmed to believe that Moslem+Middle East=Terrorism.
    How dare anyone living in communities where “information” is distorted, pass judgements and reach to conclusions about the Cairo team ???
    The only Armenians who are true Armenians , who speak the language , who read and write Armenian are the ones living in the Middle East among the Moslem people.
    I wish the best of luck to the Cairo team which inspite of having 3 injured players was able to continue the tournament.

  20. Zarchka Says:

    Guys, you must be misunderstanding something. Firstly, note that the photos were taken by me, and if I wanted anyone not to see the Yerevan player with chair on the first photo I would never upload it. And, please, probably you should have been more attentive in reading the post and comments. As no one is criticizing nobody, but discussing, and your comments and information, which obviously shows the facts from Cairo point of view is actually what was lacking here. So thanks on that.

    Also, regarding your other comment about talking Armenian or Arabic. I’m glad that in general you are talking Armenian among each other. The question of who knows better, righter and proper Armenian, Diasporans or local Armenians, is a bit controversial and is quite another subject full of argumentations provided by all the sides. But I’m sorry to assure you that during probably some 10 minutes I was standing very close to the Cairo team outdoors, and the conversation I heard was not Armenian, that’s for sure. (I am local Armenian, by the way). As I said the only sentence I heard Armenian came from an aged person saying “his mother should not learn about this”. Go, ask, whether they were told such a thing.

    However not justifying neither of the teams. As I said the tolerance must come from both sides.

  21. Vartkes Ehramdjian Says:

    What else is new?

  22. Vartkes Ehramdjian Says:

    I said it. What else is new? We always see fighting in basket ball. So I guess the trend continues even in Armenia.I do not know how good the Yerevan team is, but I guess the Egyptian team had to play tough inorder to control the match.

  23. Onnik Krikorian Says:

    Yékibdahay, I was in no way suggesting the players from Moslem countries were responsible for the fight. In fact, after witnessing the Glendale-Istanbul fight and hearing two comments from Armenian-American players I tend to believe that it was discrimination against them. As a result, I have to wonder about the Cairo-Yerevan incident given that it happened immediately after the Istanbul-Glendale one.

    Anyway, myself and an American-Armenian journalist are trying to get to the bottom of this, but until then I’ve raised my concerns regarding possile (probable?) discrimination against Armenians from Moslem countries at the following URLs:

    http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/08/22/the-reality-of-diaspora-armenia-relations/

    http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/08/20/fights-mar-pan-armenian-games-day-2/

    http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/menk-hay-enk/

    However, I’m reserving final judgment until we really hear everything that’s being said. Nevertheless, the fact the Yerevan team was disqualified seems very telling indeed. Also, I’ve spoken to a number of Armenians from Iran, Iraq and Syria who live or study here who feel they are discriminated against or disliked.

  24. Onnik Krikorian Says:

    The only Armenians who are true Armenians , who speak the language , who read and write Armenian are the ones living in the Middle East among the Moslem people.

    Sossy Neredian/Hagopian, I don’t believe in discrimination the other way either. First and foremost I believe that we should all treat each other, as well as any other nation, as human beings.

  25. Onnik Krikorian Says:

    HV Says:
    August 22nd, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    I wonder why 4 of the Cairo guys eneded up in the hospital with an open forehead, a fractured face, 3 fractured ribs and another set of black eyes and we never heard of ONe injury to Yerevan team, and why Cairo players had to return the next day for another set of X-rays cause relatives of the Yerevan players had smashed into the hospital ripping reports and X-rays so the police couldn’t use in the case building, i wonder why 4 of Yerevan players ended up at the Police Station till very late at night, i wonder why the Cairo players HAD to go to the Police station late at night to ask dismissal of charges against Yerevani players.

    Yékibdahay Says:
    August 22nd, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    […]

    After the fight, four players from the Yérévan team were sent to the police station, where they would have been sentenced to two years in prison, had the administrators of the Cairo team not stepped in and stopped that from happening. This would not have been possible if the injured players from the Cairo team had not accepted to sign an official reconciliation document at the police station. The disqualification of their team was deemed enough. It is worthy of note that even the parents of all the injured players of the Cairo team agreed to drop these charges, instead of suing them, as some citizens of more “Western” countries would have done.

    As I said, another journalist and myself are trying to get to the bottom of this, but I’d like to ask how reliable is the information written and quoted above, and where did it come from. Thanks.

  26. Onnik Krikorian Says:

    Incidentally, regarding the information I asked about, I didn’t mean regarding the injuries but the implication that the Yerevan team might have been charged by police but the Cairo team was persuaded not to.

    In particular, I’d like to know the source of the information regarding relatives of the Yerevan team visiting the hospital. These are very serious allegations and if so, I need to confirm the source and reliability of the information.

    Incidentally, in terms of the feeling that I am attacking the Cairo team, I think you misunderstand. Actually, I am deeply concerned by what I consider to be growing intolerance in Armenia and among some Armenian circles — especially in the US with regards to Middle Eastern and Turkish Armenians (and ironically, Hayastantsis as well).

    Of course, there is a lot of discrimination by every Armenian community worldwide towards each other, but the thing here is that in two basketball matches played one after the other, both descended into violence. I was there for the Istanbul-Glendale match, but not for the Cairo-Yerevan one.

    However, I will say again, I have come across many Armenians from Iran, Iraq, Egypt and Syria who say they feel discriminated against.

  27. The Twins Says:

    Hello everyone, the fight between Yerevan players and cairo players started by the player number 7 and 9 from yerevan…cairo team was not playing harshly or roughly ,if it was then the referees were going to stop them from doing so or warning them…the yerevan team was disappointed from the pressure and the close game score(the fight started after the cairo team scored 12 points after stealing the ball 3 consecutive times and narrowing the score and equaling at the end of the first quarter)
    when the fight started they all attacked the cairo team players kicking them and punching them…and its normal that the cairo guys would have responded and fight back…its not acceptable what happened ,its not acceptable that their coach and manager (wearing a striped polo shirt) threw punches to the cairo players (they punched guys from their backs from the blind side ,at least they could have a fight face to face…)
    its not acceptable that a yerevan player carried the bench chairs and tried to throw it on the players….
    regarding a point that was said earlier why they were disqualified ? well because they were entirely responsible for what happened and they should have been punished in that way….sports is a way to bring countries close to each other,young armenian sportsmen and communities but what happened from the yerevan team at the pan armenian games towards the cairo team was everything away from sports spirit …..the committee decision was fair and right …

  28. Garo Cancian Says:

    IF Cairo Team was rough with Yerevan team as u said ,
    y the organization didn’t disqualify the cairo team…
    Plz. before u write sthg. think of it
    I’ll ask u a simple question?
    do u think what the yerevan team coach made and the subsitutors was right, by throwing the chairs on the guests?
    erav shad amote tserin vra!!!!!
    In my opinion Cairo team was playing just basketball but yervan temawsa playing WAR…..

  29. N.B. Says:

    all of the people who wrote in saying that cairo wasn’t disqualified because they were guests and blablablabla..you saw ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and have absolutely no right to talk like experts about this issue…

    the way the yerevan team attacked the cairo bench…they were like SAVAGES and zaruchka i’m pretty sure you saw the way they attacked….as soon as the yerevan player number 9 hit one of our players…THE ENTIRE YEREVAN TEAM including THEIR COACH ran towards our bench..they were like kung fu fighters…

    and let me assure you onnik krikorian…the corruption in this country is undeniably visible even in the healthcare systen

    anyway…we hope that we enjoy the rest of the games

  30. Garo V. Says:

    i agree with the person who wrote that if it was an armenian injured from any other western country those yerevan boys were going to prison.but because of our middle eastern mentality, we forgive and give a second chance!!! .
    Well people who speak about religion and involve it in sports are very un educated and ignorant.
    well the idea of this pan armenian games are to get armenians from all over the world together under one umbrella.it introduces armenians to each others backgrounds.i hope we but any prejudices aside and focus on the main objective which is getting to know each other better in peace.
    i participated in the 3 pan armenian games and i noticed this weird thing about “us” not being armenian , and this is what taxi drivers,local service providers and some sportsmen have said in many many occasions and i dont why!!!! when i told them we are all armenians they answered back “no you are not” “what have you done to the counrty, you live abroad make alot of money ,and when you come here to play sports then you are armenian???” well this happened atleast 10 times during my trips, and i was very shocked.
    anyways i hope this tension goes away by time and they really appreciate what we are all doing to armenia in many many ways and im sure everybody knows this !!!
    I also hope our Cairo players return back safe to continue their treatment.

  31. Zarchka Says:

    Hey, did all the players of Cairo team have their say?😉

    I welcome it, whatever, just pity that lots of things were misunderstood.
    Cheers.

  32. Sossy Neredian/Hagopian Says:

    To avoid misunderstanding in the future I would advise people to open up their minds before opening their mouths.

  33. HV Says:

    Zarchka, the truth shall set you free, but it would send 4 to prison.

    My best friend went to the games both proud and happy, he is lying in bed in Yerevan for 3 days now, our players are amateurs, they are not playing for the money, do you know what that means, it’s called sport spirit.

    And when they visit when we INVITE them we do our best to show them everything, give them the best time and treat them like royalty, it’s never the case when we visit the “Motherland”

    It’s like the inferiority complex at climax, woooow

    Peace on you.

  34. Zarchka Says:

    And one tiny detail. I was told that everything started because one of Cairo players cursed the Yerevan player. Now when Cairo players are actively following this blog, I would ask for their sincere answer whether it was the case or not. This may seem insignificant already, however, probably we’d like to know what this was caused by.

    Personally, I lament that this happened and I don’t justify Yerevan attacking you at all. Moreover, I managed to like the game of the twins, they were really impressive and I was sorry to find one of them among the audience next day. And I’m sorry for all the injured guys, hoping that they will recover soon and you’ll enjoy the rest of your stay here.

    The fight itself was so stupid, because not knowing the real reason and circumstances, everyone just rushed into that fistfight and hit whoever they managed without thinking of the consequences. There is no justification here. And it is only now when here we are kind of trying to understand what happened.

    However, whatever, wish you good luck.

  35. T.SH Says:

    By the way why all injuries are from cairo team ? Does this ring a bell The yerevan team was disqualified anyway. So who ever is defending the yerevan team , i don’t know how he is thinking , i wanna mention also that the game was 18:18 this is realy bad for yerevan team as out of 2000 armenian in Egypt including women and children we have team that is doing an equal game with yerevan . what i mean can’t Yerevan make a better team in stead of taking some bunch of street fighers to play basketball.

  36. Zarchka Says:

    Ok, thanks everyone for your comments. But in order not to make this blog into another “fighting” place and avoid any insults and attacks, as I already get comments from our Diasporan friends in other languages, unfamiliar to me, and see most of the points were lost on them, I simply close the comment section.
    Cheers.

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